Tyndall Air Force Base Hurricane Michael Recovery Industry Day #3: Construction Materials and Methods Focused Panel Discussion (PART 1 of 2)
(4 Points, IAC Acoustics, Insular Corp, Gigacrete, ICON)
Industry Day is a collaborative effort where senior military and business leaders come together to discuss innovations and the future of Tyndall Air Force Base and the impact to the community. We realize there is no better way to rebuild Tyndall AFB without a partnership that includes both the local community and Industry. This is our third Industry Day in what we hope will be a series of exchanges to help identify innovative ways to move forward as we rebuild Tyndall together. On behalf of the Air Force we are pleased that you have taken time away from your busy schedules to assist us with the rebuild at one of the Air Force’s most important bases in its inventory.
Industry Day was held at Florida State University – Panama City’s Holley Academic Center, Panama City, Florida
Welcome back. We’re now going to begin our panel discussion focused on construction materials and methods. Each panelist will give 10- to 15-minute presentation. Just a reminder, we do have a timer in the house to keep everything flowing. Following all the presentations, we’ll open the floor up once again for questions and answers. And we’ve got these folks up here on the stage. We have Jon Willette of 4 Points. He’s the Principal of 4 Points Development. Jerry Clancy of IAC Acoustics. Mr. Clancy is working with IAC Acoustics to bring a user perspective in defining modular SCIF requirements. James Quinn of Insular Corp. is the President and CEO of Insular Corp, an insulated steel framing system manufacturer. Andrew Dennis represents GigaCrete, and is an architect, industrial engineer, and the Chairman and founder of GigaCrete, Inc. He will be sharing ideas on modular, high-performance, green building materials. Evan Loomis of ICON, which is actually the only company that’s easy to say here. (laughs) Of ICON, he is the co-founder of the Austin-based startup, ICON, the construction technologies company leading the way into the future of human shelter and home building using 3D printing and other scientific and technological breakthroughs. And when they’re concluded with their briefings, we’ll open the floor up to questions and answers. And I’d like to welcome to the stage, John Willett of 4 Points. (audience applauding) (people mumbling)
Thank you very much. It’s definitely an honor for our company to be here to speak on something that’s so important to not only Tyndall, but the community and our country. With only 15 minutes or so to go, this is a subject I could talk for days for, and my dinner partners last night had to suffer through it, so I’m just gonna hit the 40,000-foot view here, with what we’re doing. As he mentioned, 4 Points is a developer. We’re a developer, and one of the questions we had to answer is how do you scale real estate? How do you scale that? Like Apple has their phone, your phone, they design it once, and then they sell it a billion times. How do you do that in real estate? You have to check the boxes. You have to check the boxes. It has to be, you have to create a product that’s durable, universal, adaptable, deployable, it has to meet budget concerns, it needs to be green, and one of the important things I’m hearing today is it has to have an exit strategy. As developers, when we start building construction cities, we call them construction cities, what happens when it’s done? What happens when the job’s done? So one of the things that we found was, the solution that we came up with is shipping containers, is modifying, retrofitting, redesigning, and utilizing shipping containers, that are plentiful, that are everywhere. They’re in every port. By the time you go home, I guarantee, you’ll pass many of them on a road. They’re universal. How do you build them? So shipping containers, you’re probably thinking of the ones, all the contractors out here, these ones with the bars on them and the whole thing, they’re pretty ratty. That’s not what we’re thinking. I mean you can do that, but these are architecturally pleasing. These meet and go different ways. As you can see in some of these photos we have up here, obviously, in the bottom left, you have some storage, but in the middle one, you can start getting architecturally aggressive, and as it goes around on those sheets. So how do we build these? Well, one, we’re having a big labor problem. That’s everywhere. We’re out of Columbus, we’re having it there. Everybody has it everywhere, and certainly in an area like this, as you heard in the first breakout, the labor’s gonna get more scarce. So what we have is or what we can do with this product is you can create manufacturing areas around the country. You can create areas where labor, maybe there’s a little bit more, maybe it’s not so stressed. So we have a controlled area that we manufacture this product. So when this product comes out, it’s already permitted, it’s already done, it’s like a toaster. Okay, it’s coming across. All you do is plug it in. So whether you have an off-the-grid solution, which is solar generators, whether you’re plugging it in, and hooking up to the cities, this product is done, and it’s ready to go when it leaves the manufacturing plant. If you’re hooking it up to an area where you’re gonna have permanent power, or water, that’s where we would have to have an inspector, but up to that point, this leaves, and it’s fully permitted. This graph shows just, and I’m not gonna, I’m gonna pass this by because we’ve been talking a lot about the labor, but really, just on how much and when it’s gonna peak and what’s gonna happen, and it’s really important that we understand what we might, do we have 800 people at the beginning, and 2,000 at the peak, or 3,000? Well, and then it goes back down to 800, what is it doing? With containers, you’re able to piece them together like Legos. You can bring more in, you can take more away, so whatever the mission is, you’re able to meet that mission by meeting with what is ever is at the forefront for you. Time to completion. One of the great things about container development is a two by four costs the same price whether you put it in a building or you put it in a container. Where you start saving money and where you start saving time is really getting to complete. So as a developer, we want to get to the market, we want to complete the product as quick as possible ’cause we want to start getting rent. So through here, the programming and design is both the same through traditional buildings and the permits, but as the site work starts, we can actually start building. So as the site work has started, we’re now building. As we’re building, we can be shipping. So as the site work is starting to complete, we can be placing. So we can even place these in a Lowe’s parking lot. We can place them on a permanent foundation. We can lash them to the ground. We can put them on a temporary foundation, so if we have to, we can get this product deployed and into the mission very quickly. And the construction and installation and then we’re starting to live. One of the big points here is the exit plan. I’ve heard a lot about the budget. What we’re doing good, you’d think 3 1/2 billion dollars is a lot of money but it seems like it’s gonna go quick, but afterwards, what do you do? Okay, when everybody’s done and this is all built and this room’s no longer full, what are we gonna do with the product, these camps that you call them? What are we gonna do with that? Well, with containers, not only do you have the ability to resell them, you could donate them. So does it go to the city? Does it go to a homeless shelter? Does it go to additional housing in the city? Do you want to store them or do we want to redeploy them? As we know, the storm and the one that just hit, it’s not if the next storm’s gonna hit, it’s when. So do we have a product that we can keep using, and maybe move it off of our budget here into someone else’s and move it around the country or wherever we need it, because we can ship them wherever we want because they’re shipping containers. The possibilities are really endless of what we want to do, from very modern-type container developments, to dorms, to little houses of whatever we need to do, whatever our mission is, containers can help solve this. Like I said, here, this demonstrates building these maybe in a different market and shipping them here, where the labor is not as stressed. Maybe where the labor is a little less expensive. Maybe we’re able to, maybe, obviously, we’re looking at doing this all over the world, so maybe this is a good place, and then you can ship them down here, but right now, we could be building these to ship them down here and not using any of the resources in this area. So what happens on the next storm? Yesterday, I toured the fairgrounds here and saw all the FEMA trailers. Next storm, those are gone. Okay, it’s great, it’s a Band-Aid. We’re trying to solve a solution. Right here, if you look at this wind rating chart, and if you’re not familiar with containers, thr 40 is a standard. 40-footer, you see those in the semis, and then 20 is the next one. The 40-footer standard really just sitting there, the ones that are made out of aluminum, are wind-rated at 110 miles an hour just sitting on the ground before they tip over. Okay, so that’s a tornado. If you have the steel ones, it’s 130, and if you lash them to a foundation, it’s 175 miles an hour. So that means when the next Category 5 hurricane comes through, that container can take that. Okay, at 175 miles an hour. Imagine this, is that because this goes from a immediate to an enduring solution, is that during the immediate, over in the Bahamas, and we’ve missed it here obviously, wouldn’t it be great if we could have sent hundreds or thousands of these over there, not only full of supplies, but also, as soon as they’re empty, they’re actual living quarters, working quarters, et cetera? What we’re trying to do and trying to think, think outside the box, is what can we do to where we don’t keep changing and having problems on each storm? What can we do, that when this is over, someone else can use it, and lower that cost? This is a worldwide idea, so, it’s not brand new, I wish I was the one who thought about. It’s just starting to trickle into the United States. There are permit concerns that you have to get over, and we can talk more in detail with that when we have more time, but it is a worldwide idea. This is being used everywhere. There are malls and housing developments, et cetera. So it’s not a new idea. It’s just becoming, it’s becoming mainstream and it will become mainstream here in the United States. So, how does it help Tyndall Air Force Base? One is the budget. So not only is it maybe a little less than traditional building, and it gets to the market quicker, but we’re starting to look at building the base of the future, so what is the future? Well, it’s hard to tell. No one knows, it’s in the future. So we need something that’s adaptable. We need something that can be taken apart or moved around, and meets whatever mission we have in the future. 80 years ago, World War II, first time we used the jet in war. From the history books. You guys might know this, I don’t know, but from the history books. Now, look where we are today and where are we gonna be in 80 years? I mean who thought we’d have drones flying around? Okay, so what’s that gonna change? All right, we don’t need as much space as we needed. So what’s gonna happen in the future? We need something that not only can help meet today’s mission and next 10 years’ mission, but also the budget-conscious and all those other check boxes that I had. This case project right here was a concept for a university up in Ohio. What they needed was 450 units on 10 acres, 25% under the market value, so we were positioned with a very difficult program. When we started looking at this, we said, okay, how about little houses? What are we gonna do with this (mumbles)? So we came up with shipping containers, and these containers, it wasn’t just a camp, and this is what we envisioned here. Maybe not such tall towers and whatnot, but as you can see, these areas here, those are containers and we’ve made them to look like containers. We made the architecture look cool. And these next ones here, brick, they start hiding what we want. You can make them look, really, however you want, but we were able to fit 458 units on 10 acres, and also, it wasn’t a camp, it was a city. It was for families. It had places for religious worship. It had places for dogs and parks and more. As you can see, we’re putting yards on top of these. It was something that we could expand upon and people could live, work, play, and enjoy, so I heard recruitment, thank you, I heard recruitment a lot. If you want to recruit and keep, it’s all about the experience these days, so it’s really important that these people that are coming down have an experience where they’ll stay and want to be here ’cause they like where they live. We want to like where we live, even if it’s temporary. Quickly, just for scale. Have no idea where you may want to, heard some ideas earlier. That’s Tyndall Elementary School. That’s Project 450, that’s 10 acres. So putting another 450 units over the next three acres, or 1,200 units or whatever we need, is certainly possible, and with 29,000 acres, as a developer, I can tell you that it’s endless. There is a point, and maybe we’ll talk about it later, is about who would buy it, because these could be purchased and rented back by a developer. It could be the city, it could be the Air Force, but there’s plenty of parts on the, talking about the return on investment that would have to happen for someone to come in and invest in a project like that. So, right now, we’re looking, we’ve missed the immediate response. The storm is gone. We’ve gotten past that. We’re now in the temporary to intermediate. We need something that is good to live in, that is strong, that can help with the budget concerns, and that can, that can be, that has an exit strategy in the end, if need be, but it can also become enduring. It could become part of the landscape, in one or pieces of parts, of all 12 of these sections here, with the help of our architects and whatnot. So, if we want to be the future, I think we can create it. I think we have to be adaptable, and this product helps you do that, and it is definitely proactive versus reactive. Thank you very much. (audience applauding)
All right, next we’ll hear from Jerry Clancy of IAC Acoustics. Mr. Clancy is working with IAC Acoustics to bring a user perspective in defining modular SCIF requirements. Sir.
Well, I appreciate the invitation to come speak. We’re excited to share some of our thoughts here. What I’ll be talking to and what we put our whitepaper talk topic together was an alternative approach to building secure facilities, or what’s commonly known as a SCIF, and SCIFs have a different approach to building them because they have to meet stringent accreditation requirements for both acoustic mitigation and RF. So they present special challenges in fabricating the facility itself. So what we’re looking to do here is to put together a modular system of prefabricated panelized acoustic panels that interconnect into various different form factors. As you can see here, pictured here is a panelized secure facility SCIF that we deployed in a hangar space, so not unlike what some of the potential locations would be here at Tyndall. So from a bottom line, upfront perspective, the need for SCIFs and the need for classified information processing, especially at the sensitive and compartmented levels, the demands are growing. New mission needs like cyber, fifth-generation aircraft, all require that, and as we’re changing our mission sets to evolve to the near-peer fight, those missions are just growing. Space is another area in the multi-domain fight that we’re really starting to, the needs for SEI and classified information is almost growing exponentially. So this is a flexible approach to build these things. The modular approach, probably the biggest benefit is the ability to build it on-site with prefab panels, tear it down, reassemble it to a new location, and pass accreditation probably the first time out, and re-accredit it every time you rebuild it. You can’t do that with conventional construction. The other part is it’s expandable, so these panels have the ability to, as your security needs grow, your number of users grow, you can reconfigure the panels, expand the space, if your security challenges change, where your classification level changes, you can re-compartmentalize it, and in the conventional way, you’d have to demo the building, rebuild it, re-change the panels. The other approach, because it’s panelized, the panels can be stacked on a flatbed truck, easily transported, put in the back of a C-130. That’s not only important, CONUS base, but OCONUS, it’s almost essential, especially some austere locations where most people want to deploy. From prefabricated standpoint, having these panels built in a factory-controlled environment is, takes away a lot of the construction variables of on-site construction. Skilled labor forces always becomes an issue when building a SCIF, and then the acoustic materials themselves can be put in a controlled environment in a repeatable process, so we’re almost guaranteed, when it comes out of the factory, they test each, each one of the panels are tested, that’s gonna meet. When we ship the panels out to the site, that it’s gonna pass accreditation once they’re assembled. From an acquisition strategy, because we can demount the structure and move it, it doesn’t have to fall under a MILCON budget. Other sources and codes of money can be used. O&M funding is one of the principal sources that we looked at. There’s other flexible options from different GSA contracting venues and even to look at potential leasing structures. The other thing that I think is probably one of the more important items, especially if you’re looking from a future basing perspective, is to build a standardized design and then replicate it across multiple locations and installations. And so what I did, looking at the base of the future, I’d put together a notional concept of what we could do on a project-type basis, using other transactional authority, contracting vehicle to rapid prototype a SCIF structure, looking at the F-35 as a target. All the maintenance operations on the F-35 and fifth generation fighters, they all have special access required. There are certain equipment packages that are in the SAP world that have to be controlled. So each unit will have to have a SCIF and a maintenance facility and with the classified TOs. So we could build out under an OTA, a SCIF, prototype it, have the users start to use it, use it to find the requirements, standardize on a design, and then rapidly field it out to the, and replicate it across the other F-35 squadrons. So what is a SCIF? So, there’s different levels of security levels all the way through top secret that I’m sure everybody in the room is familiar with, but then there’s another type of security that has to be compartmentalized. It’s on a need-to-know basis. So both from the sensitive, compartmented information, and as well as the special access data, that all has to be processed in a specialized facility and stored, and so to do that, you have to have stringent acoustic requirements as well as RF to prevent foreign surveillance. So there’s sophisticated methods to be able to extract information from foreign surveillance that is dictated in intelligence directive from the Director of National Intelligence, what we call the ICD 705, and that dictates exactly how you have to build out a SCIF, what materials to use, what kind of testing, and then each and every facility has to go through an accreditation process, which if you don’t pass, there’s no shortcuts in security, you have to repeat until it’s done. The 705 process is a pretty demanding process, and it kind of drives everything we do in a SCIF construction. So from a demand standpoint of what’s driving all these SCI requirements, if you look at all the fifth-generation aircraft ops and maintenance, they all have to have, they’re all processing SCI information, so in order to stand up on a base and get IOC, you have to have a SCIF facility to do that. All the cyber operations, all the cyber protect units and different cyber operations, all are in the SCI processing. The AOC weapons systems, all the multi-domain ops, all require SCI. What are the specific SCIF requirements for Tyndall? Combat archer, they have deploying fifth-generation participants will need access to SCI materials. The F-35 bed down, absolutely, we’ll have to have SCIF facilities. The 601st and ISRD will definitely need SCIFs, and then intel support for the MQ-9. So I’m not from the construction world, I’m from the user community and the intel world. So if I look, I have a different perspective on what the true costs are, and sometimes, a user, end user costs aren’t really taken into perspective, and most of the time, it’s the lowest bid, it’s the dreaded LPTA that kind of drives the award process, and I challenge everybody here to take the user perspective. Having idle and cleared people that can’t do the job, the mission suffers if you’re waiting for that accreditation process and that SCIF, so time to accreditation in the security world is probably one of the biggest metrics. So I won’t go through all this ad nauseam, but looking at some of the benefits of a modular panel-built SCIF versus a more conventional SCIF design, I think the biggest part is that we’re a relocatable structure that can be moved. You can use different codes of money. Where the traditional or conventional SCIFs tend to be permanent structures, because it’s stud-built with usually about four or five layers of drywall, to meet the acoustic requirements. We’re building these in the factory so we’re basically guaranteed accreditation so when the panels come out of our factory and tested, we know when they’re assembled onsite, they’re gonna meet the 705 requirements. And then having prefab components, the assembly process takes days instead of weeks or months, and then they’re all based on proven designs that have been tested over many, many years, as opposed to on-site construction, where you need a skilled workforce to put the SCIFs together. There can be construction flaws which you won’t find until you start to do the final testing for accreditation, and then you’re trying to hunt down where the problem is, and that can take months and months sometimes. To expand, you have to do a demo and expensive renovations on the conventional side, wherein the panel-built, it’s basically deconstructing the panels with the joiners and putting new panels in. And our goal is to, from contract award, depending, obviously, there’s variables of the size of the SCIF and other requirements, but we’re looking at an eight-week kind of process from award to an accredited SCIF, so that’s the kind of goal and timelines we’re shooting for. So why panelized versus other modular types of fabrication? I mean, we certainly can build out a panelized SCIF as a complete structure, put all the comms and HVAC in there and ship it as a complete unit and drop ship it, as you can with a container SCIF or other modular approaches, but I think the flexibility of the panel approach, basically, kind of earns its weight. The ability to build these things either freestanding, that can withstand the elements, wind loads of, and blast and ballistics. You can put them inside limited access space or do remodels inside of an existing room that you want to SCIF out, you just panelize the inside of it. They stack flat and the panels can be reconfigured. This is an exploded view of how the panels go together. There’s a H-joiner that’s made out of this flexible spring steel that joins them all together. So they can be quickly put together, demounted, and moved to another location and put back. They can be built up with a quarter-inch steel for ballistics and wind, and they’re strong enough to support multi-story installs. We’ve done a number of those. The other interesting things, most SCIFs have been in pretty nasty environments. We kind of like it that way, I guess, but they don’t have to be, so the panels can be appointed with fabric, different chair rail options, wood veneers, so they can look like executive-appointed, make the work environment a nicer place to be in. So, a couple quick slides on the fabrication and the factory process. We’ve got the factories automated with statistical process control. They’re all tested at the factory. One of the biggest things in SCIFs is probably the doors. They’re all hung and adjusted, instead of doing it in the field with leaky seals. The factory itself is highly automated, and for small batches, we can do quick changeovers, really looking at custom designs doing this way. And then to, just a quick summarize, standardizing on the design, turnkey with partnerships for, with other industry partners, and I think I’ve covered the rest and I’m off the stage. (audience applauding)
Thank you, sir. James Quinn of Insular Corp. is the President and CEO of Insular Corp., an insulated steel framing system manufacturer. Sir.
I’d like to thank Tyndall for inviting me to make a presentation. Certainly appreciate the time. Insular is a supplier of a panelized modular insulated steel framing system. It’s a green building solution. And we all have choices in life. You can have a choice with the picture from one of the buildings down here at Tyndall, or we could have something like this. This was done for the US Marine Corps in Okinawa. It was engineered to 187-mile-an-hour wind load and a Class C seismic regulations. Just the facts, that’s what I’d like to present today. The facts, really, sort of date myself. This is a 50s TV show. Some of you older folks might remember it, but anyhow, Joe Friday always wanted the facts, and the facts today are flexibility, adaptability, capability, truth, and simplicity. Our flexibility is that our modular insulated steel panels come standard with a 24 gauge steel stud, and it’s actually a double set of studs, set on the inside and set on the outside, so there’s a complete thermal break from the expanded polystyrene in the center. It’s a G90 galvanized steel. The studs can be either 16 inches on center or two foot on center, and the studs are bonded to the EPS foam with a heat set glue when it’s put into the press, and you can’t separate the studs from the glue, and from the EPS foam. They are specially designed for us as to make them. We can make a panel that’s four foot by 12 foot. The studs are gauged and sized to the needs of the job. If you’re doing, say, a mid-rise building where you need load-bearing panels, say, carrying concrete floors, supporting concrete floors, we can adjust the gauge of the studs and as the building goes up, then you could decrease the gauge of the studs as you don’t need that much support. For high-rise construction, it’s nice to use these. You can stay with this fairly standard 20 gauge stud because it doesn’t need to have a load-bearing capacity. Flexibility in design, we have the ability to do multi-story, high-rise, assisted living, medical facilities, hotels, motels, fast food. We also offer a relocatable unit that we’ve sent 72 two-story units to Kuwait. These units are set on adjustable footers. So they don’t need concrete footers, just a reasonably level ground, and all the systems in that were plug-and-play, so the HVAC, the electrical, all the lighting, interior and exterior, was all plug-and-play, went together very quickly. A small crew of guys, four guys can put together a single unit in about eight hours. Adaptability, with the modular insulated steel stud panels, we preform the window and door openings, headers and point loads are inserted where they’re needed, and it’s all done and engineered and designed, put on the drawings, and the drawings then are panelized, showing the numbers on the panel, numbers on the drawing, so it saves a lot of time on the assembly, to find the right panel, put it in the right place, and generally find it’s 50% faster than standard construction, and the nice part about it is your profit isn’t going out in the container in the dumpster when you’re done. Adaptability, we certainly offer great energy efficiency. We can also offer threat protection. The building at the top was at the Marine Corps Base at Quantico. It was slated to be demolished. And for basically just a little bit over the cost of the demolition plus the dump fees, we were able to envelope that structure, not taking any of the skin off of it, just enveloping it with new panels, coming up with a completely thermally efficient building, as you can see from the slides at the bottom, the temperature outside, 34.9 degrees, the wall was 34.9. That same wall inside, 72.3 degrees, so there was no loss of energy there except through the door. It was a poor choice of doors. We have joined forces with a company called 3B Protective. If we want to offer a threat solution, they offer a ballistic concrete that can be applied to the panels. Not only does it give us ballistic protection, but we can add forced entry protection. We’ve also partnered with Assa Abloy door company. They are the makers of doors, door frames, and door hardware. And they also offer UL Level 8 threat protection and forced entry protection. Our capabilities, hurricane protection is one of the ones that we’re most interested in. The nice thing about our panels is that you get framing, insulation, sheathing, and vapor barrier all in one panel, so when you put that up, you’ve taken care of, basically, four processes. If you look at the top picture, it’s a little hard to see, but the studs on the hurricane panels are 4 1/2 inches on center, which gives us the protection that’s needed to meet the South Florida hurricane requirements. The lower picture is interesting because this was a house that was down in Katrina, and actually, the house was to the right side of the picture and it’s completely gone. The house to the left or the addition to the left was a new addition, wasn’t even completed, and it wasn’t even the hurricane panels, and still stood up. So it did really pretty well with Hurricane Katrina. And I’d like to, if I can, just take a minute and read you an excerpt of another situation that we were able to supply a solution to. This was from the Caribbean Beacon, it’s a radio station in Anguilla, and they had a hurricane come in there that was, it had 175 mile-an-hour winds for 10 hours parked over the island, and this letter says that the windows at the airport control tower were designed to withstand 200 mile per hour wind loads, and yet all the windows were blown out at the height of the storm. Needless to say, the eye of the storm was very strong parked over the island for a long time. They nicknamed the building that we put up the Styrofoam teacup. The only damage done to the building was when, I’m sorry, Jon, the 40-foot sea container was blown across the parking lot. It was 15 to 20 feet away, and the sea container hit the north wall when it was picked up and overturned, and it was, it damaged two of the panels on the corner which were easily removed and replaced. They said they were glad it wasn’t a brick building because they would have had to lose the whole building. They were thankful that they had put this together. They actually had no damage inside other than a little bit of water damage that came through the door, and they said with 175 mile-an-hour winds, you could expect a little bit of water to come through the door, but they said their million-dollar piece of transmitter equipment inside sustained no damage at all. So the, let’s move on to the next one. Timely production and deliveries, one of the nice things about it is because the product goes together quickly, it minimizes weather delays, and also lessens the construction loan costs if there’s a construction loan involved. It eliminates or lessens the cost for rented equipment because the timing is speeded up, and we’re in a position to handle and manufacture in large quantities or multiple jobs at the same time, and we can fast track projects. Timely benefits, we schedule deliveries, so that there’s less site congestion. If you have a small site or an in-city site where it’s a difficult site, we can stagger the deliveries to meet that requirement. The panels are lightweight. Again, there’s less heavy equipment required. We provide design build assistance, engineering, structural engineering, construction drawings, and we certainly are in a position to certify the drawings and stamp the drawings that we would do for you. So whether you’re doing the panels yourself as your company, we’ll sell you the panels, you can do it that way, or if you would rather have a complete turnkey job, we’d be happy to do that for you, too. So the truth is there are many products on the market. The facts are we have flexibility, we have adaptability, we have capability, we have the truth, and we have a simple product, an easy product to put together. It’s energy efficient, it’s design adaptability. We have whole form floor trusses and roof trusses available, steel trusses. The product will not sustain a flame. It will not support mold growth. Termites will not ingest it, and it can be finished inside or outside with any normal construction material, and it meets all building standards, including South Florida hurricane standards. So again, the simplicity of it, the modular panels, preformed windows and door openings, headers and point loads put in to where they need to be, we would deal with threat requirements on an individual basis depending on what that need is, and we can offer FEBR, Forced Entry Ballistic Resistance, we can offer blast resistance, and some of the videos are on YouTube, if you want to look up Insular Epic, you can take a look at them. And so we’ve sort of presented the facts. Let’s talk a little bit about cost, material versus material, our insulated steel framing system is really comparable to wood framing and concrete block, but when you add the labor-saving factor to it, we become much more attractive, much less expensive. The 14,000-square foot building that you see pictured here, I worked with a crew of six men that had never worked with the panels before, that never actually seen the panels before. We were able to put up all the exterior walls on that 14,000-square foot building in seven hours with six men that never worked with it before. That’s not too bad for timely construction. The other benefit is the fact that these panels pay dividends for the life of the building, because the insulation value is so high, and so you’ve got that added benefit. That’s all I have to say. Thank you very much. (audience applauding)
[Man] Thank you, sir.