Washington Foreign Press Center Briefing Virtual Roundtable Briefing with Secretary of State Antony Blinken

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Good afternoon. Thank you everyone for joining us. My Internet price. Um it’s my pleasure to welcome you all to this event in advance of the 30th anniversary of World Press Freedom Day. It’s also my pleasure and my honor to introduce Secretary Blinken, who will provide some remarks on the importance of press freedom and our support for around the world, both for them turning to you and taking your questions. So without further ado all turned over to Secretary Clinton. Thanks very much and thanks to all of you for joining us today for nearly 30 years, May three has been World Press Freedom Day. And that’s a chance uh for us to reaffirm the sacred principle that information is a public good, that people have a right to know the truth about the leaders, events and policies that shape their lives and the journalists who bring them that information often do it at great risk to themselves as part of the State Department’s recognition of World Press Freedom Day next week we want to take questions from journalists who are out there every single day reporting and challenging and often dangerous situations who know better than anyone how precious press freedom is. And let me just say a few words before we get into some questions about why press freedom matters. Happy to take take some questions to get into a conversation first, we know overall the global picture on democracy and human rights is sobering. Um it’s captured in our departments 2020 country reports on human rights practices and in recent reports from independent watchdog groups like like Freedom House. Um Authoritarianism is on the rise around the world. Governments are becoming less transparent, more repressive corruption is spreading this information and misinformation are becoming rampant. And of course the pandemic has accelerated many of these trends. It’s provided a pretext for repressive governments to, among other things, intensify their pressure on independent media. Some governments incarcerate journalists, harassed them, target them for violence. Some use other more subtle, like mandating professional licenses for journalists, then using endless bureaucracy to keep them out of reach or imposing high taxes on newsprint to push independent media out of business. We’ve seen non state actors like criminal gangs, terrorists traffickers threatened journalists to and we’ve seen the impact of internet slowdowns shutdowns, other restrictions that can make it impossible to operate. This is a vivid reminder that internet freedom and press freedom actually go, go hand in hand. The biden Harris administration is committed to putting human rights back at the heart of our foreign policy that includes press freedom. People everywhere should be free to express their beliefs, right to hold opinions with, without interference to seek receive and share information and ideas. It’s even written into the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Because being free to think and speak is central to what it means to be human. We see a free press as vital for you in progress. When you harm journalists, you threaten that progress. That’s one reason we announced the Soggy Band in february. We will impose visa restrictions on people who acting on behalf of a foreign government engage in activities including suppressing, harassing, surveilling, threatening or harming journalists or their families. All of the journalists here today work in countries and regions where press freedom is under attack in one way or another. So before getting into questions, I just want to thank you for the work you do to expose abuse to hold leaders accountable to empower people with the information that they need to lead self healthy, productive lives to engage meaningfully in the political and civic lives of their countries. And one last thing um I come to this with also a particular personal perspective because I started my own career as a journalist and while I did it in the relatively safe confines of Washington D. C. And in Western europe, um I have a particular uh connection, empathy uh and um understanding of how important a free press is to our democracies and really to the future of progress that we all hope hope to see in our societies. So it’s something that and I have a personal connection to and that I take very very much to heart even when um I’m on the receiving end sometimes of reporting or commentary that I may not love. So thank you for what you do and now mostly over you. Excellent. We will turn first to Gabriella Barroso from G. P. I. T. V. In Venezuela. Okay, thank you so much Mr Secretary for this opportunity. This is a great time to point out some injustice happening in my country at the head of the Caribbean region Venezuela has a record number of arbitrary arrests and violence against reporters. The regime order our station V. P. I. T. V. To cease operations threatening our team with criminal charges. Now our journalists have been forbidden to report news on the streets and the people aren’t receiving life news anymore. However, there is something more serious. During the pandemic, Maduro has taken total control of the information. There is not even one journalist who can access the official sources of information or visit a hospital to verify how many people are dying daily from coronavirus. Some media outlets has been punishes like L National who received a fine of $30 million dollars while others who are privately honored but serve as a propaganda machine keeps operating without any penalty to see us considered this private media outlets to be contributors to the continuous censorship. While Maduro owns $1 million international take news factory Jorge Arreaza has sent public and private communications to news international agencies criticizing their coverage in Venezuela. Do you fear that Venezuela might follow china and expel international correspondent so the regime will have total control or everything or total control of the internet? What could the United States do to keep the internet content unrestricted? Thank you. Thank you very much. I really uh appreciate the question even as it’s incredibly sobering. And another last powerful example of a trend that we’re seeing in that I talked about a few minutes ago in other places. And we start with the proposition that we condemn media censorship anywhere, including in Venezuela and including Maduro’s crackdown on independent media outlets and attempts to restrict access to information, including the covid information that you mentioned. Um look, the the bottom line is a democratic government has to respect and encourage press freedom. A confident government that is unafraid of the truth and unafraid of different opinions, embraces press freedom. Uh Conversely, we see that governments that are not confident and don’t actually believe that they have the support of the people do just the opposite. A confident government does not harass or intimidate journalists, much less put them in prison. Um So uh certainly uh we uh we would urge mr Maduro to free journalists, like people like Roland Moreno, Who has spent I believe, six months now in the regime detention and allow him and others like him to do their jobs. Um We’re committed to working with Venezuelan and international partners to try to strengthen an environment where all Venezuelans can find a peaceful path forward out of the current crisis, with full respect for freedom of opinion, freedom of expression association, peaceful assembly, an end to attacks against human rights defenders, journalists uh and political opponents. Uh so we will continue to speak out for that to stand for that. We have several initiatives to try to increase access to information in Venezuela. These include efforts to to amplify access to information through traditional media community community journalism training projects, uh pairing community journalists with international outlets to increase their profile, active social media engagement that reaches millions of followers. Um So hopefully some of this health, but look, uh you know, some of this is of course beyond our control, our ability to yeah, to mandate the mandate things, but I think it speaks volumes. Two Mr Maduro’s view of whether he really has support from from his own people. If you if you’re confident uh you respect freedom of the press, freedom of opinion, even when it’s critical of you when you have no confidence, you do just the opposite. And that’s what we’re saying. Turn to veronica Monk from telex and Hungary. Yeah, Very much for this opportunity. In the last 10 years, the Hungarian media sphere is became extremely divided by politics. And it is becoming harder and harder to access information from state officials. And there are more and more media outlets that has strong connections to politicians and there are less and less independent critical information sources that provide fact based news and quality journalism. That is what we do at to lax and anybody who believe in freedom of press can contribute financially and donated telex because this is the largest Hungarian new source that is common community founded. And my question is how does the biden Harris administration and U. S. Secretary of State approach the US Hungarian relationship and how this approach differs from the trump administration’s. And how do you evaluate recent developments in Hungary, especially regarding Russian and chinese influence, rule of law and media freedom. Thanks very much. And let me say a couple of things to that. First, we have real concern um that is shared by international press freedom advocates and many Hungarians over the client of media pluralism in 100 a diversity of independent voices, diversity of independent opinions. That is the fabric of democracy. And so we would certainly urge the government of Hungary to promote uh an open media environment. Um europe is undoubtedly a center of geopolitical competition, Moscow like Beijing is actively working against uh integration against the uh desire of people to associate with whom they want to associate and is seeking in different ways to undermine the democratic and sovereign will of many central and southern european countries. So this is a growing concern as well. Um I think from the perspective the United States or for that matter the european union, we believe that our collective interests are best served by trying to cement democratic norms, rule of law, cooperation based on common values based on a shared future. And that has to include freedom of expression, freedom of the press. And I would note as well, and a real irony and irony of course, is something particularly familiar to uh central european friends. And the irony is that of course Hungary for so many decades was constrained held back in its ability to express itself and to have its uh the opinions of its citizens fully expressed during the period of domination by the soviet union. So to have emerged from that um only to find now growing concerns about press pluralism is I think, again, ironic, maybe the wrong word, it’s not a sufficient word, but I think it runs totally contrary to the history of uh that I think Hungarians would embrace after after so many decades under the domination of of another country. That held back freedom of expression and freedom of opinion. Having said that, let me also say that the United States and our administration, we’re committed to working to find ways to strengthen our relations with Hungary, a NATO ally uh and also uh advancing our commitment to supporting democratic institutions, human rights and the rule of law. These things should should not be incompatible. And we do look forward to find ways to work with Hungary on many issues that mutual interests, particularly in the security, law enforcement, economic and energy areas. But uh huh at the same time make very clear both our concerns and our principles when it comes to human rights, the strength of democracy and its institutions and freedom of the press. Next will turn to rossi Janica from period. Thank you very much. Thank you Secretary thinking for doing this. And speaking of the freedom of press, there are some big important problems issues with Turkey and us. And if I don’t ask you about them, it might seem like I’m being censored, you know, and as you know, April 20 for there was uh President Biden statement and it was a very sensitive issue. And now there was already a problem with this for hundreds and now we added this. Uh Yeah, problem. So I remember at the briefing of the State Department about a month ago and spokesperson said there was no policy change on the so called Armenian genocide issue yet. But then after all these years, President biden decided to use that term. And what happened this year normally State Department presses the administration, the White House not to use that word, not to offend offend Turkey, not to break relationships. But relationships are already in bad ways now. I don’t think you have any leverage on press freedom. Critic Als about Turkey is handling press freedom. And then And there is also 400 issue. Let me ask you that also. And now June 14 and there will be an auto salmon and you will be there and President Erdogan and Biden is going to meet. Do you have any plan how to solve as far as as I know as far as 400 is the most important problem right now? And is there plan right now? Where are we know there will be a new another frozen conflict or are we going to see some problems? And please answer me clearly about this as 400 the genocide issue? Where is your department standing and White House? And because now Turkey feels offended. And how does us is gonna reach out the Turkish media or Turkish human rights activists? Thank you. Thanks very much. Um, so with regard to the april 24th statement, they’re really was not and should not have been any surprise. President biden expressed use that he has held for many, many years. And uh he’s been very clear about that as a United States senator. He was clear about it during his his campaign and he is uh consistent as president with using these help for a long time. So I don’t think there should have been any surprise. And It’s also true that the president has made clear from day one his determination to put human rights and democracy at the heart of our foreign policy. And part of that involves making sure that there is um an understanding uh of history and an acknowledgement of past atrocities precisely in order to prevent their recurrence. Um as the President noted, the commemoration of Remembrance Day is to honor the victims not to assign length. And of course the focus that we put on this involved um events in the in the waning days of the Ottoman Empire. And it’s important, I think in order to make I was that the reason we use optimum emphasis not to bring any the statement speaking statement speakers. Yeah, thank you know, the statement speaks clearly for itself and again, as I said, there should be no surprise is I think it’s also important to note that the President had a good conversation with President Erdogan. I know that they look forward to the opportunity to meet. There are many, many issues and areas where we are working closely together. Turkey is a critical ally for the United States and NATO. We’re partnered on many shared regional interests, global interests and we continue to see a strong bilateral relationship which includes expanded areas of cooperation and effective management where we have disagreements and like uh like most countries we do have our disagreements where we owe um we all Turkey the respect of stating our disagreements clearly directly honestly, just as we expect and anticipate the same from Turkey and that’s been an important hallmark of our relationship. I’ve had multiple conversations with my my friend and counterpart, the foreign minister and again the president I know looks forward to to be able to speak with President Erdogan When they meet on the S 400 questions a couple of things. Look, we’ve also been no surprises there. We’ve also been very clear, very direct And very consistent in urging Turkey to abandon the S 400 system and will continue to seek cooperation with Turkey on common priorities and Engage in dialogue where we have disagreements. The acquisition of the S 400 said this for a long time, Runs directly counter to commitments all allies made at the 2016 NATO summit in Warsaw to reduce, not increase dependencies on Russian equipment. The purchase of the S 400 endangers the security of the United States and allied military technology um personnel as well. And it undermines the cohesion of the alliance in which Turkey and the United States are both strong and leading members. It also undermines the interoperability of the alliance, which is so critical to its being able to function effectively and to meet any challenges that it might face. It also of course provides substantial funds to Russia’s defense sector, as well as Russian access to the Turkish armed forces to the Turkish defense industry. So we’ve imposed sanctions pursuant to legislation that Congress past that we are, that we are bound to uh the so called caSA legislation that I’m sure, you know well, um and we will we will follow the law going forward. So I very much hope that we can find a way forward and through this. But it’s also very important going forward that Turkey and for that matter, all US allies and partners avoid future purchases of Russian weaponry, including additional S four hundreds, which again bring Russia revenue access and influence any significant transactions with Russian defense entities. Again could be subject to the law to the cancer and um, that’s separate from and in addition to sanctions that have already been imposed. So again, we in my conversations, the president’s conversations, we’ve been very clear, very direct. We’re not, there no surprises I think are our partners in opera know exactly where we stand and I very much hope that we can find a positive way forward Through this and focus on the many areas where it’s important that we uh, we work together and even deep in our cooperations. So if there is, I think there is no return policy on them. Could decree to decrease from model applied to 300 missile defense system Model for the 400 and can Turkey place them in some of our very yeah, very distinct situations, very distinct examples. And in some instances where people have bought, you know, bought equipment that long predates the sanctions legislation. For example. There these are very distinct, but the concerns, um, that are strongly shared both by our administration and by our congress on a bipartisan basis. Democrats and republicans um, have been clear, remain very clear and they’re not going to change. We’ll turn to malakal summary from the shark. Okay, thank you so much. It’s a great time for me to deal with you and they really appreciated doing this. I have very quick questions. Two questions. First one is how do you differentiate between the importance of the press story and national security? For example, we saw the leader of uh, really Sham HTS, uh, um, Mohammad al julani, the terrorist organization, appeared on one of american tv channels. This is my first one. The second one after you ask. Um, so I’m I’m not aware of that specific instance that you cite. So I can’t I can’t speak to it uh specifically. Um, what I can say just more broadly is that uh, you know, just as we are pressing uh and making the case and standing for press freedom around the world, we would be hypocritical and beyond hypocritical. We would not have uh, we would really not have a leg to stand on if we were doing the opposite at home. So it’s very important for us to stand strongly for press freedom for three reality, excuse me opinions, uh and voices. Um, and to do that at home, not just around the world and to hold ourselves accountable to that standard. I said, you know earlier, we often hear speech that I find objectionable or certainly that I disagree with, but it’s my job, especially when it’s speech that may make me uncomfortable to do everything I can to defend and support and advance diversity of opinion. Um again, no matter whether it’s uncomfortable for those on the receiving end, so that’s the the broad perspective that we have. Again, I can’t speak to individual instances, but that’s that’s the way we look at it. Uh The second question, thank you so much. What is what is the U. S. Policy towards Iran? Especially, it’s a melon activities uh in the Middle East region. And how do you separate them in in the negotiation talks right now? And thank you so much. I hope I can meet you uh and one on one. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Um Look, it’s a it’s a it’s a important and complicated question. I’ll let me in the extra time uh the brief but try to address it. Um Iran poses distinct challenges and concerns, including uh destabilizing activities in uh in the region, including support for terrorism. In concluding, of course, concerns that we have about its repression of Rice at home uh and a nuclear program that over many years has raised deep concerns in the international community about Iran’s intentions and um it’s increasing capacity to potentially develop a nuclear weapon, the fissile material, a weapon itself. And we were concerned with all of that when we uh engaged in negotiations with Iran uh some years ago with european partners with Russia, with china, uh that focused on the concerns we had about its nuclear program. And the agreement that resulted, the JCPOA did a very effective job in cutting off Iran’s access to have the capacity to produce fissile material for a weapon on short order. Uh and it pushed back the so called breakout time, the amount of time it would take Iran to develop this on material for a weapon, to be honest here. Um, and it had the most intrusive monitoring and inspection regime of any arms control agreement ever negotiated. But even as we negotiated that agreement, and even as we concluded it, we made very clear that we would continue to take action as necessary against Iranian activities in other areas that we found objectionable to the posed a threat to peace and security, including against support for terrorism, destabilizing actions in the region, human rights and that’s exactly what we continue to do. So these these things are not at all, um inconsistent. It’s important that we deal wherever we can as effectively as we can uh to any of the challenges posed by Iranian actions. And we were able to do that with regard to the nuclear program while at the same time continuing to stand strongly against actions in other areas and that remains the policy. So, in the interest of hopefully hearing from everyone, we’re going to start a group questions together. We’ll take two at once. Um we’ll hear from was she all from Geo news? Go ahead. We’ll leave. Thank you. Mr Secretary for this opportunity. Um I have a two part question as well. How concerned are you about freedom of press in India and Pakistan given that one is a close ally now and the other is not as much as it used to be. Um and how would you besides the initiative and um a couple of initiatives that you mentioned and the Khashoggi Band especially, how would you compel these countries to promote freedom of press rather than suppressing it? Which has been going on lately? Um a lot uh just a little bit part as well um that there have been reports that India and Pakistan have engaged in uh back channel deployed uh talks to um fix relations. Especially talk about the Russian issue as well. Uh what do you say about that? And then we’ll also take a question from robert, Delaney robert. Go ahead. Thank you. Mr Price, thank you mr Secretary. So my question is just regarding your predecessors, the measures that he took against members of the staff of mainland chinese media outlets operating in the U. S. Uh including designating them as being part of foreign government outpost and also reduced drastically reducing their visa times. So this of course had the result of china retaliating by expelling a number of american journalists, thereby kind of undercutting the ability of the american press corps to understand what’s going on in china. Uh just wanted to ask, is your like, understanding that that most people know that the chinese government exerts a lot of control over mainland chinese media outlets already. Is there? Do you see any change in this policy? Uh and then uh further to that uh in general with your with your policy towards china. Aside from a very proactive effort to shore up relations relations with allies, A lot of the measures in place from the previous administration remain in place and I’m wondering going forward what we might see and say the next 100 days or more for for China policy. Thank you. Thanks thanks very much. Um so let me try and address uh those very good and important questions with regard to um freedom of the press in Pakistan. We are concerned by significant restrictions on media outlets on civil society more broadly. Uh And these are not these are not new concerns, but media and uh content restrictions as well as a lack of accountability for attacks. Uh disappearances against journalists clearly are a threat to the ability to exercise the right to freedom of expression and association in Pakistan. We’ve documented some of this in our country, reports on human rights practices and uh we see media outlets, journalists, their families in Pakistan often subject to threats harassment at the hands of security forces, political parties, militants, other groups, all of which you’re well familiar with. So beyond said, beyond different laws that we have on the books beyond the initial g uh band that we talked about. We of course regularly raise these issues and concerns in our conversations uh and in our meetings with with our counterparts in Pakistan, and we also make them make them publicly publicly noted our concern over the arrest of prominent uh media figures, for example, for their work. Sometimes the most effective thing we can do over time at least, is to shine a light on practices that we we find objectionable and also um have others uh do the same. Uh and hopefully that has an impact but are open and and honest engagement with with Pakistan enables us, I think, to have an ongoing sustained dialogue on human rights issues more broadly. Um and and more specifically, when it comes to press freedom, the rule of law, religious freedom, even as we collaborate uh in a number of areas where we have very clear mutual interests. So this is uh oh an ongoing challenge, an ongoing problem. But it’s one that will continue to uh to engage in ah and with regard to uh any talks. I would I would invite you to ask, I’m not, again, I don’t have any information on that. I invites you to address that too, officials in Pakistan or or in India. Um on on china. This is a this is a challenging question and it’s something that you know, I saw and engaged on last time I was in government. Yes. The former administration designated PRC state owned official media outlets operating in the United States as state owned uh official media enterprises as foreign missions. It’s kind of hard to ignore the fact that the chinese government has effective operational and editorial control over these entities which are focused solely on furthering Beijing’s global propaganda and at times disinformation. Um We took steps to ensure that the public knows exactly who pays their salaries and that there editorial comments, um our views of the uh the chinese government and the Communist Party of China and the interest there is in just making sure we’re promoting transparency, not interfering with the media outlets and their ability to to report on topics that they choose, no matter how critical they happen to be of the United States government or anything else. And we didn’t ban these state controlled media outlets, which continued to operate here, but we wanted to make sure um that there was transparency and that people had full knowledge um that what they were reading was being in effect uh produced at the behest of the government in Beijing, not not independent media. The real concern here is Beijing’s use of propaganda and disinformation overseas through state owned media enterprises and platforms with the purpose in part of interfering or undermining democracy while restricting freedom of the press and speech in china. And it’s very hard to say, you know, oh, they can have it both ways. Um It’s a serious concern for us. It’s a serious concern for allies and partners around the world. And we’re trying to work together to define affirmative democratic vision for global information and that information space, to try to build resilience against threats to it and to expose malign activity wherever it is coming from. You know, better than I do that. China maintains one of the least free information spaces uh in the world. And I recognize that to your point, and it’s a good one when we take certain actions, even though it’s apples and oranges, we’ve seen Beijing take, take actions in response that may well have the effect of even further limiting what is already incredibly restricted space. So it is something that uh we understand and uh and is a concern, but it’s not sustainable either to have a total lack of reciprocity in the way um China conducts its approach to uh, to media freedom of expression and the way we and countries around the world do. Um had them having the benefit of operating in a free and open media environment and denying that benefit to everyone else is really not a sustainable proposition either. And again, I want to emphasize this wasn’t banning chinese outlets, it was simply making clear, um, you know who in fact they are beholden to the second part of the question, just on differences with the, with the approach we’re very focused on. I’m looking forward, not looking back, but I would just say that as we’re thinking about and working on how we engage china in what is both an incredibly complicated and incredibly consequential relationship. We, um, we’re focused on the fact that there are different aspects to the relationship, some of it’s adversarial, some of its competitive, some of this cooperative, but the common denominator and this is what we’ve tried to move forward on. Is that whether it’s adversarial, whether it’s competitive, whether it’s cooperative, we have certain foundational interests in the way we engage china. One is the one you pointed to, which is strengthening reinvigorating our partnerships and alliances, because when it comes to conduct our actions that we find objectionable, that same conduct is often found objectionable by many other countries and they are similarly agreed. And when we are approaching a problem alone, uh that’s one thing when we’re approaching it with many others similarly situated countries, you tend to be more more effective. And so that’s one aspect of our approach. A second aspect of our approach is leaning in engaging in uh multilateral organizations and institutions from which we had pulled back in recent years, because when we pull back, we’ve seen that Beijing tries to fill in and we want to make sure that our voice, our interests, our values, are being effectively represented in those organizations, which in many instances are the ones writing the rules and shaping the norms that will actually shape the lives of people around the world for for decades to come, including on the use of technology. So that’s the second aspect of what we’re doing. Third aspect of what we’re doing is we are standing up and speaking out for our values and uh that’s important to um finally, we are doing something that I think is critically important and that is making the right investments here at home, in our people, uh in our technology, in our infrastructure. Because ultimately, our ability to effectively advance our foreign policy are standing in the world is more than anything else dependent on our strength and vibrancy at home. And that’s the uh that that that approach, I think is going to be important in the way we get china. One last thing while we’re on this, because I do think it’s important, our purpose is is not to contain china or to hold china back. Um, even if we could uh, our purpose is on the contrary to stand up for the rules based international order that we have invested in so heavily for decades and that we believe has not only been a benefit to us, but two countries around the world, including China creating an environment in which it also could could emerge. And when that order is challenged by anyone, we will stand up and defend it, not because we’re against or trying to hold back the country in question, but because we are determined to uphold the order and defend it. So that’s an important proposition. It’s an important distinction that sometimes gets lost. We’ve already gone over our lifetime. So I would invite uh brief questions from our two final question or uh first we’ll turn to promoted from our friends. Probably you are. Thank you ned uh Secretary Blinken. I’m going to quickly give you some context so that you understand the reasons for my questions today, uh to millions in Southern africa facing extreme day to day survival challenges buying a newspaper is just not a priority media houses, therefore an insufficient revenue. And the only covid 19 stimulus package is possibly a family member or a friend in the diaspora. These deficiencies result in captured by corporate and state actors. The breeding ground for anti West pro East sentiment. In fact, radio intelligence station licenses are being awarded to individuals organizations with ties to the government and the military. Zimbabwe is a case in point. And so we’ve seen these laws that are causally linked that criminalized uh the space including the interception of Communications Act, the Criminal law Codification Reform Act and cyber security and Data Protection Acts. So given this a scenario ah The 2021 World Press Freedom Index ranks South Africa and Botswana 32 and 30 out of 180 countries, respectively. In stark contrast Mozambique Tanzania, Uganda, Zambia and Zimbabwe range in ranking from 108 for Mozambique 230 in Zimbabwe with reforms moving at a snail’s pace and in face of broad proposals, for example, in the parliament of Zimbabwe related to the promulgating of a patriot bill cited as being like the US Logan Act and where we’ve seen pretrial detentions, incarcerations, disappearances, abductions beatings and expulsions rising in Mozambique, Uganda, Tanzania and Zimbabwe. What can Southern Africa expect from President joe biden? That demonstrates seriousness, innovation and foreign policy approach. That differentiates him from his predecessor’s supports media freedom in this region, training of journalists, including investing in strengthening the fourth estate in a way that does not leave out its diaspora. What’s bidens approach to these issues and in his biden africa doctrine? If in fact he has one, thank you for all, will also turn to Bruce sr from radio free europe radio livers. Thank you very much. Um you know, the question I submitted was about reports of the U. S. Speaking basis in uh in Central Asia after the afghan pull up. But that’s perhaps a bit off the agenda for this. So, if I could ask um more more about media and central in central asian media freedom doesn’t exist in Tajikistan and turkmenistan. Uzbekistan enter its second President ship Cat Museum has shown some promise in easing previous restrictions, but recently passed recently criminalized insulting the president on social media. Kazakhstan’s introduced restrictions that make it more difficult to get accreditation and also limit the topics that journalists are able to give questions to from officials at press conferences. And even in Kyrgyzstan, which has long been one of the brighter spots in Central Asia. Under the new government, some independent journalists are now receiving death threats for critical reporting on the actions of the new government in a region where all these governments can count on Russian and chinese support for the repressive policies. What can the U. S. Do and the biden administration do to support media freedom? And since I’m speaking as a representative of our RFE RL right now, I would also ask you, our organization is getting hit by fines from the Russian government over the foreign agent uh law. And could you speak a little bit about support from the State Department, the U. S. Government for Radio free, europe Radio Liberty’s mission in Russia under the current circumstances. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for both of you. And let me let me say to some extent there’s there’s some overlap because the important questions relating to both, some countries in Africa as well as countries in Central Asia where we see real challenges, real problems when it comes to freedom of the press and expression is uh what are we doing about it? What can we do about it? What will we do about it? And I think there are a number of things that ultimately we’re going to be probably unsatisfactory in the near term, but nonetheless, Essential one is uh speaking up and speaking out. And that includes in our annual human rights country reports, where we document with the imprimatur of the United States government concerns that we have uh in uh in countries around the world. Um I take it upon myself when we just did this about a month ago when the report came out to make sure that the Secretary of State is introducing the report two to the media and to the world again, to emphasize the seriousness that we attached to it. Um Beyond that, we are speaking up and speaking out when we see individual instances of concern in uh countries around the world. Our embassies are too, and of course we’re raising these issues on a regular basis in the conversations we have with our counterparts, whether it is in many of the countries, in africa that you mentioned or for that matter, in Central Asia, I just had a meeting of the so called C five plus One, as you know, and this was one of the this is one of the areas of conversations, one of the concerns that I raised, even as we’re trying to strengthen partnerships and do more together, this is always going to be an impediment to actually reaching the full potential of what we can do. So uh we we continue to make that very clear. We also talk to other countries that have similar concerns and often when we when we either speak out together or act together, we might have a greater impact. And then finally we do have and we’re going to, I think, focus even more on the different programs we have for supporting training, equipping independent media around the world. And again, none of this is a perfect answer at all to the problem, but it does reflect the different lines of action that we’re going to pursue. And I think you will see Increased emphasis on all three as we go forward. We’re now in month, whatever it is 13 of the administration, month four, um but it is very much not only my focus, but the President’s focus. We’ve been very seized with the R. T. R. L. Situation with Russia. I’ve spoken to my Russian counterpart about this, I spoke to the head of our tRL uh just a couple of weeks ago in my office about this, we’re doing everything we can uh to be supportive and uh, to find a good way forward. Ultimately, Moscow is doing what Moscow will do, but we’re trying to make sure that at least uh in some ways we can be supportive and helpful, even if our advocacy falls on deaf ears in Moscow itself. Well, thank you very much everyone for taking part. Thank you very much. The secretary Lincoln for your remarks were moments with secretaries Next meeting. But if you have a very quick final thought, please no. Just to again, really to thank each and every one of you, not just for today, but for what you’re doing every day and for continuing, especially in increasingly challenging environments, uh, to uh, to ask the hard questions, to hold, all of us accountable, to inform, to inform citizens of of what’s going on. I really admire it. And very imperfectly, we will do everything we can to support, Oh, the work that you’re doing, and the basic principles that you were giving, giving life to, and when we get it wrong, we know we’re gonna hear about it and I expect nothing less. But I also very much welcome ideas for how we can better support freedom of the press. And, uh, we, uh, we have a very, very much an open door on that, so don’t please don’t hesitate asking hard questions and holding us to account and put us on the spot. But if there are concrete ideas that you have, um, I’d really like to hear those as well. So thank you very much.